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The truth about the Master Jesus
The Master Jesus, as revealed through The Twelve Blessings, is literally a world away from the conventional interpretation that so many people have been taught for centuries.
In this short series, Mark Bennett – an International Director of The Aetherius Society – and Darren Ball – creator of 12blessings.org – are back to discuss some of the outstanding qualities of this Master and what these can teach us about our own inner potential as well as the living Cosmos we are a part of, including…
– Are we all Divine?
– Can we all give spiritual healing?
– Is there life beyond Earth in this solar system?
– What did the Master Jesus really achieve for us in sacrificing himself on the cross?
– What is the difference between the Master Jesus and God?
– And much more…
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We can all give healing and… we all should give healing, and… those people who do are those ones will inherit his Church.
[Darren] So Mark we’re talking today about what we learn about the Master Jesus from The Twelve Blessings, and I thought where we could start was “who the Master Jesus really is”, because it’s so different from what many people understand him to be today.
[Mark] Yeah, I think if you asked a lot of people what they think Jesus was really like, probably one of the first words they’d say is “gentle”. Which is certainly true, and you can hear that in the way he speaks while delivering The Twelve Blessings through Dr. King. But that’s certainly not his only attribute – and arguably not his greatest attribute, because he was also an individual of tremendous power; very uncompromising; very definite.
He did not care what people thought of him, at all. He did not care about the norms of society at the time, and was not afraid to make trouble even. For example, when he – if this story is true as recounted in the Bible – when he disrupted the moneylenders in the temple. If somebody did that today, they would be arrested. So this is, in the best possible sense, a spiritual troublemaker and a very brave person; a very inspired person of course, but not inspired so much in the sense of being artistic and working alone and producing something beautiful in a normal sense, but inspired in the highest possible sense of spreading spiritual truth, doing the right thing and giving a teaching that I think was quite literally alien.
This is at a time when, of course the idea of mercy and compassion did exist, but there was nothing like the concept of welfare that we have today or human rights or equality or anything like that. And for an individual to come along and preach turning the other cheek is really just extraordinary. And, although it’s inexcusable of course, you can see why so many people turned against him, because it was just too outrageous.
And coupled with that of course, he had powers; spiritual powers such as the ability to walk on water and the ability to heal the sick, which gave backing to these claims – to these teachings – which, you might think “Well, how wonderful that he could give proof”, and it would be wonderful to someone who welcomed truth, but for someone who despised truth, and unfortunately there are a lot of them on Earth, this was really the last thing they wanted: a powerful person going against the status quo.
[Darren] For him to come in to not just talk about healing but also to give healing in such a practical way, I think is a demonstration of how revolutionary his presence and his teaching and his action really was at that time.
[Mark] Unfortunately, there still is some very backward thinking about healing. Another thing that people think about healing is that it’s all magical or supernatural and it isn’t. It’s a natural thing. It’s a higher form of nature. St. Augustine actually said something similar about miracles that there is in fact no such thing as being contrary to nature. There are only things that we don’t yet understand about nature. And right back then in the fourth century I think he was absolutely spot on. It certainly applies to healing today. Some people are born with remarkable healing powers, yes, but you would only be born with a power like that if you had worked for it in a previous incarnation, and then using that knowledge constructively for people like you and me who were not particularly born healers, we can learn; we are learning and we are improving every time we give healing.
[Mark] I think one the most magnificent aspects of The Twelve Blessings is how definite he is about that point. Not just that it was the essence of what he taught in Christianity but that we can all give healing and that we all should give healing, and actually not just that we should do, but that those people who do are those ones will inherit his Church.
I think maybe it’d be a good idea to read out the exact quote from that, because it certainly gives you an insight into his personality, and he certainly doesn’t flatter, or indulge, or kowtow to anyone when he’s making these statements.
This is in reference to “they who heal”:
“It is indeed wrong of the so-called Christian Church to turn the deaf ears of dogmatic limitation upon the feats of these Ones. For these are the ones who will be instrumental in bringing the Light of Practice again into the Christian Church. Even though some of them regard themselves not as Christians, yet, by their very action they demonstrate more Christianity in one Healing pass than their devout brothers do in all their surface prayers.”
His main mission was to die for us, and this is a strategy that he devised, and it’s a very, very clever strategy… The suffering that he went through on the cross was the way that he manipulated Earth karma to prevent a catastrophe… We will have to pay the karmic debt eventually, but hopefully, in the meantime, we will see sense, learn some lessons and put ourselves in a position where we can pay that karmic debt without the Earth being in dire catastrophe.
[Mark] Jesus was not the one and only Son of God. We are all divine. We all have divinity, but how advanced you are spiritually is a case of how much you are manifesting that divinity. And a great being like Jesus – the difference between a great being like Jesus and someone like you or me is that Jesus was manifesting his divinity to a far greater extent, which gave him this wisdom and these powers etc..
Jesus is an advanced master and to all intents and purposes we could call him a divine being or even a God, because of his level of consciousness, primarily, and also his powers. And by his level of consciousness, I mean the greatest manifestation of that is his fantastically unconditional love.
Jesus was, in fact, an advanced being from another planet; from the planet Venus, not from this physical plane of Venus; from a higher material plane; a higher frequency of vibration of the planet Venus.
So if NASA goes to Venus tomorrow and walks about, they will not find Jesus unless Jesus particularly chose to manifest himself, which is highly unlikely, or any other Venusian for that matter, or any aspect Venusian civilization whatsoever because it does not exist at that level.
It’s like if you had a friend who lives in a third floor flat and you go look in the basement and you say “Well, they’re not in.” Well, of course, they’re not in because you’re looking on the wrong floor.
Jesus chose to allow a small part of his consciousness to be born into a normal terrestrial body, through virgin birth, in order that he could exist on this planet apparently as one of us to bring about great good.
[Darren] So you talk about the virgin birth, how does that relate to the Star of Bethlehem, for example?
[Mark] Good question. The Star of Bethlehem was of course not a star because stars did not lead wise men to stables and then hover over them. It’s totally impossible. It’s totally ridiculous. Either the story is not true. Or, it was a spacecraft. And in The Aetherius Society we believe that it was a spacecraft from the planet Saturn that brought about this tremendously complex, scientific, miracle. Scientific miracle. So it was miraculous to us, but it was scientific to them, of enabling Venusian consciousness to incarnate among us on this planet.
[Darren] One of the things that does bring us to is what he did for us and how that is an example of his magnificent divinity actually.
[Mark] What he did for Earth was obviously to teach, but that was very much the secondary function of his mission. His main mission was to die for us, and this is a strategy that he devised, and it’s a very, very clever strategy.
He deliberately put himself into a position where he knew that he would be killed. He could have stopped that at any time by the way. He had powers. This man could walk on water. He could raise the dead. He was not going to be afraid of a few Roman soldiers or an angry mob. He could have dealt with them with a wave of his hand. This is a tremendously powerful individual but he allowed himself to be arrested and then crucified.
The suffering that he went through on the cross was the way that he manipulated Earth karma to prevent a catastrophe from having befallen Earth at that time that would have taken mankind back several thousand years.
Why did he need to go through that suffering? Because that is the karmic law; that you cannot ever dodge the karmic law, but a great being can sometimes take karma upon themselves to save lesser people, i.e. us, at least for a certain period of time. We will have to pay the karmic debt eventually, but hopefully, in the meantime, we will see sense, learn some lessons and put ourselves in a position where we can pay that karmic debt without the Earth being in dire catastrophe.
We will have to pay the karmic debt eventually, but hopefully, in the meantime, we will see sense, learn some lessons and put ourselves in a position where we can pay that karmic debt without the Earth being in dire catastrophe.
But the real brilliance of this strategy was that he was doing a great thing. He was doing the right thing by taking the karma on himself; by helping us. I mean, I say the right thing, he didn’t have to do it. But it was a wonderfully, incredible, noble sacrifice that he should not have had to do for us.
There’s a very interesting remark that Dr. King made that we could not have done what he did even if we’d had the knowledge. So, even if we’d been able to appreciate karma and understand the dark forces and all that, and we’d been willing to be crucified, it still wouldn’t have worked. I think he says it would take something like, I think he says not even a million people being crucified would have had the same effect as the one crucifixion of the Master Jesus, because it was the crucifixion of such a great being that caused the karmic manipulation.
It’s a fascinating thing. It’s a horrific thing, but its result is a beautiful thing. So this is really the essence of positive magic, or you might call it white magic. And I think the essence of Christianity as well, in a sense, in that it is taking something bad and transmuting it into something good.
There’s actually a few words about that in “Blessed are they who love”, which is the Third Blessing.
“These Ones, often in great pain and anguish themselves, think naught of this but do transmute the very forces of Holy Nature into this Mighty Energy called Love, so that they may give it freely to those who need it.”
So this is talking generally the very forces of holy nature. So in other words “anything in manifestation” and raising it – bringing it up. Where the Master Jesus’s strategy is so exceptional, even among these exceptional beings who Love, is that the aspect of nature, if you could call it Nature, that he picked to transmute into Love was such a low one. And that is his cosmic genius.
Well, that is his whole life on Earth – was giving up a high state of being – state of peace – coming down to Earth, suffering, being treated appallingly, and then doing great good and ultimately demonstrating Ascension. And, ultimately, of course, returning to his full state.
[Darren] You’ve talked about the magnificent sacrifice that he made for us on Earth, and when he talks about the Planetary Ones it is actually insight into that Divine pattern of service, really, and of sacrifice that so many of them have made. And I think that theme is one that he introduces virtually in all the blessings: A greater being coming down in order to help those lesser beings to evolve back to the God from which they came. And I think that being the essence of The Twelve Blessings reflects on how much that principle lives in him, too, as a being.
[Mark] Very true. Very true. Well, that is his whole life on Earth – was giving up a high state of being – state of peace – coming down to Earth, suffering, being treated appallingly, and then doing great good and ultimately demonstrating Ascension. And, ultimately, of course, returning to his full state.
His whole life would have been one of suffering, because a being as advanced as him should not have been alive on this Earth at all. He should have been existing on a higher vibratory framework of another planet.
[Darren] I think we talked before that a being like that coming to Earth, I mean virtually every breath they take in itself is a sacrifice.
[Mark] Absolutely. Every breath is.
[Darren] He talks about the Planetary Ones in the Fourth Blessing. Obviously he is a Planetary One, so he’s speaking virtually of himself in that respect. And, what the sacrifice of a Buddha or a Krishna or…
[Mark] Certainly speaking from personal experience. As he is indeed with “They who love”. In fact with a number of the blessings he’s speaking from personal experience.
“They who work for peace” – certainly. “The wise ones” – certainly. “They who love” – yes. “Planetary ones” – yes. “Thanksgivers” – yes. “They who heal” – yes. It’s only in the later Blessings, when you have even greater cosmic beings than him that he’s not talking from personal experience in that he has not been in that state himself. But he is certainly talking from the product of his own meditations – his own inner experience, which is the closest that any lesser being could get to a higher being on any level.
Just like we could not know what it’s like to be a Jesus. But if we work hard and gain the state of Samadhi, then we could have some glimpse. Perhaps, in a similar way to the way that when Jesus is in a high meditative state on his planet he has a conception, a greater conception, of what it’s like to be a planet or even a sun.
Life is 100 percent, if not more, based on spiritual principles. And we should lead our lives 100 percent, if not more, according to those principles. It is as simple as that… Not through the desire for gain, or the fear of loss, but for the love of service. That’s why we should do everything, absolutely everything. And not one of us does… And there you have an example in the Cosmic Masters, in The Master Jesus, in the Lord Buddha, in Dr. King, is that they were not 100 percenters… they were 150 percenters. They didn’t just do what they were meant to do. They didn’t just do enough. They did everything.
[Darren] One other aspect of the mind of the Master Jesus that The Twelve Blessings gives us insight to is his metaphysical mastery, if I can call it that.
In so many of the blessings where he talks about, well just for example, in the Fifth Blessing when he’s talking about the Thanksgivers and the real result of our thought and action on Earth, and how that’s manipulated by the Devic Kingdom to bring about certain results, I think… I’ve not seen that expressed so simply anywhere else. And it goes beyond that really even to talk about the metaphysics of the solar system in which we live, the real nature of the Earth and the Sun, and the sacrifice that they’re making. And I wondered if you could talk more about the metaphysical mastery of the Master Jesus or Jesus as a master metaphysician.
[Darren] Well, it’s interesting what you’ve said, it just brings to mind that when the Master Jesus is talking about these great metaphysical things it’s always with a tremendous sense of feeling and love.
The concept of sacrifice that runs through the blessings, when you listen to the blessings especially, but even when you read them, you can not only begin to just have a tiny glimpse of understanding that sacrifice but you can begin to actually feel it from the way the Master Jesus expresses it because he really knows sacrifice. So when he’s talking about the Earth it’s not a sort of cold, scientific dissertation. It’s almost like a declaration of love and reverence, and an appeal to us to feel the same. And of course a concern for us that we don’t feel the same. Because he knows far better than we do the consequences of ignoring our debt to the Earth, and of neglecting our spiritual duty of reverence to Her.
[Darren] Change or leave…
[Mark] Exactly, well change or leave, yes. Let’s read the passage to put it in context for anyone who’s not familiar with this blessing:
“As yet, man, She has borne you. I request most strongly NOW–that you do not take such for granted. She has not, as yet, demanded that you change–or leave.”
Very simple words. Very simple words. And yet some of the most important words ever spoken on Earth, because it is literally about our continuance on this planet. And not just in this life but for lives to come.
And this is a mistake I think that people make, and I think to some degree probably all of us – or certainly most of us – certainly I make, to some degree is to think of… you’ve got you’re material life, for want of a better term, and you’ve got your spiritual life, and you sort of pigeonhole one and the other. But what we forget really is that life is inherently spiritual, all the time, in every respect.
We have to do material things. We have to live in a material world, but it should always be with a spiritual motive, for a spiritual cause, however simple the act may be.
And yet on Earth, we tend to… the general terrestrial mindset, even in spiritual people I think, unfortunately, is that “yes, spirituality is wonderful, it’s lovely but that’s sort of like 10 percent of my priority, 10 percent of my time, my money, my effort…”
[Darren] And impractical anyway…
[Mark] Yes, it’s like “It’s an ideal. It’s not really how I lead my life, etc…” This is totally the wrong approach. Life is 100 percent, if not more, based on spiritual principles. And we should lead our lives 100 percent, if not more, according to those principles. It is as simple as that.
Does it mean that we shouldn’t earn money and fill in tax returns? No, of course it doesn’t mean that. We have to earn money, and some of us have to fill in tax returns. Yeah, this is life on this plane of Earth. But, when we’re filling in that tax return, we should be doing it in the spirit of “I have to do this because I need to do this to live on this plane and be of service.” Not through the desire for gain, or the fear of loss, but for the love of service. That’s why we should do everything, absolutely everything. And not one of us does. Because I think if a person really lived that a hundred percent, then I think that person would… Well, I don’t think it would be long before that person no longer needed to live on this plane at all.
And there you have an example in the Cosmic Masters, in The Master Jesus, in the Lord Buddha, in Dr. King, is that they were not 100 percenters… they were 150 percenters. They didn’t just do what they were meant to do. They didn’t just do enough. They did everything.
This series features Mark Bennett and Darren Ball. Mark is the co-author of Prayer Energy and the youngest International Director of The Aetherius Society, whose teachings he chose as his spiritual path at an early age. You can learn more about Mark here.
Darren works as a volunteer for The Aetherius Society and is the creator of The Twelve Blessings website. You can learn more about Darren here.
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